Richard Jenkins On His New Film The Humans, His Early Days As An Actor, And More - Exclusive Interview

Richard Jenkins is one of the most recognizable character actors of the 21st century, even though he made his screen debut in 1974 and has been working steadily ever since in movies and TV shows both successful and obscure. Jenkins landed permanently in the public consciousness in 2001, when he starred as the deceased head of the Fisher family — whose ghost continues to haunt his wife and children — in the groundbreaking HBO series "Six Feet Under."

Since then, Jenkins has been nominated for a Best Actor Oscar for the 2007 indie drama "The Visitor" and has snagged high-profile starring and supporting roles in films like "Burn After Reading," "Step Brothers," "The Cabin in the Woods," "Kong: Skull Island" and Guillermo del Toro's 2017 thriller "The Shape of Water," for which he earned Oscar, Screen Actors Guild and Golden Globe nominations as Best Supporting Actor. He's also got an Emmy on his shelf for Outstanding Lead Actor in the HBO limited series "Olive Kitteridge."

His new film, "The Humans" — directed by Stephen Karam, who adapted his own Tony-winning play — finds Jenkins playing Scranton, Pennsylvania teacher Erik Blake, who assembles with his wife Deirdre (Jayne Houdyshell), daughters Aimee (Amy Schumer) and Brigid (Beanie Feldstein), Brigid's boyfriend Richard (Steven Yeun) and Erik's mother Momo (June Squibb) for a Thanksgiving both like and unlike any other.

The clan gathers in Richard and Brigid's decrepit downtown Manhattan apartment, in which strange noises are heard, lights flicker on and off, and mysterious figures appear outside windows. Meanwhile, grievances are aired, secrets revealed, and untold family truths exposed — all against the backdrop of middle class ennui and financial unease. "The Blakes' problems are not unique to the Blakes," Jenkins tells Looper. "They're in every family ... Health, money, betrayal, yearning, wanting to be loved."

Jenkins' empathetic ability to portray an everyday family man is on full display in "The Humans," even as Erik Blake is forced to confront some uncomfortable realities about himself and his kin. This isn't the last we'll see of the DeKalb, Illinois native in 2021 either: Jenkins is set to appear next month in Guillermo del Toro's new film, "Nightmare Alley," marking his second collaboration with the director.

The Blake family in "The Humans" are very indicative of a typical American middle class family. Did you know people like this growing up? Was that something you related to right away when looking at the script?

It was very familiar, but I think it's familiar to any of us who've grown up in a — I grew up in a small town in the Midwest and the Blakes' problems are not unique to the Blakes. They're in every family, if not all of them, some of them. Health, money, betrayal, yearning, wanting to be loved.

I mean, that's why it's called "The Humans." I think it's recognizable. Some people say, "Well, I don't know anybody like that," and I want to go, "What are you talking about? How can you not? How do you live your life?" You want to say, "I bet your Thanksgiving dinner is exactly like theirs." I think some people are in denial about it.

I think one of the issues in this that, for me, resonated was the issue of money, and that there are so many people who live day-to-day not knowing if they're going to have enough money to pay the electricity bills or the mortgage. It's terrifying. It's a terrifying feeling, and to have that feeling all the time. You can't help your children if they need help, and they do need help. I don't know. It's what we all go through, or have sometime in our lives.

I agree with everything you said, but somebody might counter, "Yeah, Richard Jenkins, he's a successful actor. He's been doing this. He's on film, he's on TV. He doesn't have to worry about these things." But actors have to worry — you work job-to-job. It's the same thing in many respects.

Well, I don't have to worry about it now, but I did for many years. I worried about it. I had kids. I had two kids and it was like, "What do I do now?" My wife, thank God, she was a dancer, and she's a choreographer and she taught dance in an arts magnet high school. I don't know what we would have done. I mean, I worked, but I made no money. I didn't know what the future was.

It was like, I was in my 30s and I didn't know how I was going to educate my kids, and you constantly think about that. I don't think that's anything that is foreign to most of us. You worry about it today and there's no real need to, but it's just part of who you are after a while.

Your father was not initially supportive of you being an actor. Did you tap into those memories to play the relationship that Erik has with his daughter, who's a struggling musician?

Well, actually my father didn't want me to be an actor, but I never knew that. That's the difference. My father supported me all the time. He would have clippings in his pocket when people would come by. People always said, "Your dad stops me on the street and shows me." He was terrified that I would starve to death, but I didn't know that, and I never had a chance to thank him because I didn't know he felt that way.

But Erik doesn't really feel that way. Erik, actually, he sounds like he's hard on his daughter, but what he says to her is, "If you are going to let a little setback like this do this to you, maybe you should do something else. Because I don't want to see you give up what you're doing because of something that can be fixed. We're the Blakes, we bounce back." He's really saying, "Stop whining about it. Keep at it. Just don't feel sorry for yourself."

We're going to see you next in "Nightmare Alley." How is it working with Guillermo again, and what can you say about this film and what people might expect from it?

I saw it last night and I just really loved it. It's Guillermo. You want to go, "Oh, that's Guillermo del Toro that did that." I love Guillermo. I'd never met him when I did "The Shape of Water." He sent me an email. My agent called and said, "Guillermo del Toro wants to send you an email." I said, "Really? Okay." It said, "Hi, I'm Guillermo del Toro. Here's the script for 'The Shape of Water.' I want you to play Giles. I hope you love it as much as I do." That was the email.

I read it, and the next day I sent him back an email and I said, "I think I do," and that was it. To be my age and to get to hang out with Guillermo del Toro ... it's such a cool thing. I mean, Guillermo is like nobody else in the world. He's kind of like a Mexican Mike Nichols in the sense that Mike Nichols, I don't think he ever repeated himself. He was that interesting, and Guillermo is like that.

Guillermo knows about art. The guy does not waste his time. He's always reading. He's always looking. We were going to the Venice Film Festival on a plane. Afterwards he said, "Oh, it was great. I got four hours of sleep, and I read a book and I watched two movies." I said, "What book are you reading?" He said, "No, I'm not reading, I read it." I said, "You read it?" He said, "Yeah, I read it."

That brain is huge. He's funny and smart and a joy to work with, and a freaking master at what he does, just a master. He's not copying anybody, but he's been informed by all these great films, and yet he has his own style, the way he shoots, the way he edits ... I just loved "Nightmare Alley."